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The Way I See It

By Domhnall de Barra

Man’s inhumanity to man knows no bounds. Just when you think you have heard the worst, another item on the news makes you despair even more.  There have been a few incidents recently, especially a case of an assault on a woman in Limerick city that was in the courts last week.  The attacker was no stranger to the woman as he used to stay with her on occasions. On one visit he got her to ask an elderly friend of hers to drive them to Charleville. On the trip he attacked to woman, hitting her repeatedly with a bottle. When they got back to the house in Limerick he pulled a fridge across the door so that nobody could leave and continued his attack. The elderly man explained that he was afraid to intervene due to his frail condition and told how the man hit and kicked the woman, threw acid in her face three times and poured a kettle of boiling water over her before leaving her for dead. She recovered consciousness to find herself in a burning building and managed to make her escape despite her horrific injuries. It is hard to fathom how anyone could be so cruel and depraved but it shows that there are a lot of people out there who have the capacity and the will to do evil deeds. Then there was the case in England of a couple who neglected their 16 year old daughter who was found dead in her room. She was 16 stone weight at the age of 13 and incapacitated due to being in a wheelchair. Despite this the parents kept feeding her fatty foods until she was over 22 stone when she died. By this time she had outgrown the wheelchair, which was never replaced, and was unable to go to the toilet. When the police found her in the room she was lying in her own excrement covered in sores which went right into the bone. She was covered in flies and maggots that were feeding off her flesh and the stench was so bad that seasoned police offers got physically sick. Before she died she was screaming and when her father was asked what did he do he said he texted her twice to stop  it. Both parents were found guilty of manslaughter by neglect but is there any sentence long enough for them?  To leave any human being in that condition is unthinkable but how could you do it to your own daughter especially when she was handicapped. In many of these cases the excuse of drink or drug abuse or socially deprived background is presented as a mitigating factor but I don’t buy that for a minute. There simply is no excuse for inhuman behaviour and the full rigours of the law should fall on any perpetrators.  Long ago, when there was a row, the worst you could expect was a split lip or a bloody nose. Nowadays  you would be lucky if you weren’t knifed or even shot in an altercation. The world is becoming a very dangerous place and we have to do all we can to ensure evil is rooted out and dealt with. If we don’t, what will there be for our grandchildren?  We all deserve to live our lives without looking over our shoulders all the time.

On a much lighter note, somebody asked me the other day if I knew when dartboards first appeared in pubs. I remember the first one I saw was in Mick (The Cheeser) Collins’ pub in Abbeyfeale in the 1950s. It was a novelty at the time but it wasn’t the first game that used to be played in bars at the time. For years previously the game of rings was played in any pub that had a little bit of room. “Rings” were played on a flat board attached about eye level to a wall and had 12 little hooks numbered from one to thirteen. Each player threw six rings from an agreed distance from the board and if a ring settled on a hook, the player was given that number of points. The first player to reach an agreed amount, usually 100, won the game but it had to be ended on an exact amount. The rings could be thrown under or overhand and there was great skill in getting the rings to hit the board at the correct angle so that they caught the hook and fell downwards. There was usually a net underneath the board to catch the rings that didn’t land on a hook but if the rings hit the board in a certain way they could fly all over the place. Rings is an Irish game that spread throughout the world, especially after the famine when millions had to emigrate. After the 1950s, darts took over. They had been very popular in English pubs and quickly took off here.  I remember as a teenager, walking into Abbeyfeale at night with my neighbour Jack “Davy” O’Connor, to play darts at Jim Lane’s pub which was, I think, only the second establishment to have a dartboard. It was a four mile walk both ways but we thought it was worth it because of the enjoyment we got out of it. I actually became quite good at darts and played in a senior league while I was in Coventry. When we went to different pubs to play other teams in the league there was always refreshments on offer. These included Scotch eggs, pickled eggs, black puddings and jellied eels!, quite a mixture. It may seem strange but they were lovely with a nice pint of beer and didn’t last long on the counter. I don’t know if too many today would be tempted by the eels but I can personally vouch for them.

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I am tracing my mother's family who came from your area[moyvane] and settled in Canada, about 1840

Pat Enright married Catherine O'Brien We think they were married in Ireland and then left for CANADA. their first son Pat was born here in 1841 Family were R.C.

Can you give me priests names ?and E-MAIL . any other ideas that would help
THANKS KEN KEHOE

What did you make of data I sent you on above who left Moyvane in the 1790's, became a prominent leader in the United Irishmen in Clonmel area, and was mortally wounded at 'Vinegar Hill', N.S.W., Australia after being deported on the Anne from Queenstown to Fort Jackson near Sydney in 1800 together with other convicts including Dan Langan? I hope you received the data a while back.

How did Hell Road get its name?

Regards to all, Tom.


I've been researching in the archives of the Public Record Office in London and found some papers about Patrick Kenneally (that's how they spell it). They describe him as being from Woodford or Duagh. They are about his internment in 1921. I'd be happy to send copies of these documents to anyone who is researching him or the events of the 1919-23.

Good evening.
Searching for (even) more details regarding my wife's G-G-grandfather Wiulliam Daly Moore I decided to try Google and there he was ! (under doctors). Although a few years ago I (tried) to play a round of golf at Tralee I had never heard of Newtownsandes and finding him mentioned here raises a whole lot of questions -when-how-why etc. William was borne 1826 in Ballymurry Cty Down, studied/married in Dublin, worked in Wales, married again in Lancashire and the last record I have he was living in Richmond Place Dublin in 1892.

I am obviously interested in any information you may have about him and if you are interested can offer you in return the information I have gathered.

Hope to hear from you Denis Poole (also of Irish descent but living in Switzerland)


Sorry hear you lost so much material. I am re-sending the above. You may discount the quoted opinion on a possible connection with a Cunningham family in North Tip. as extremely unlikely. Try Kerry Library for Culhane's Glin and Neighbourhood, which may refer to Philip or Phil Cunningham and let me know, please. Also Whittaker's Unfinished Revolution, but principally the former.
Happy Easter, Tom



According to Ruan O' Donnell, UL, in Tipperary Historical Journal 1998(Thanks to Martin Maher, Peter Beirne and Frances), Philip Cunningham, born in Moyvane, Co. Kerry is described as Clonmel's insurgent leader of 1798. A connection with the Cunninghams of N. Tip.may account for his moving there in the 1790's. He ran a public-house and worked as a mason in Clonmel town and in Feb.1798 he married a local woman named Black. On 26/06/1800 he and 146 other male convicts as well as 24 female criminals were deported in Captain Stewart's Anne, via Rio de J. and Cape Town to Port Jackson, Sydney. He was one of the principal leaders in the risings in NSW area especially in Castle Hill. He was mortally wounded in "Vinegar Hill", NSW in March 1804.

Through the Convicts' Lists or Ships' Manifestoes or otherwise could further information be gleaned to include him in the family tree so as to establish the connection between Philip Cunningham and my gr-gr-gr father Myles Cunningham who farmed in Kilbaha, Moyvane(then called Newtownsandes), North Kerry(ref Griffith's Valuation) and who is thought to have been born in the 1790's?



Sorry hear you lost so much material. I am re-sending the above. You may discount the quoted opinion on a possible connection with a Cunningham family in North Tip. as extremely unlikely. Try Kerry Library for Culhane's Glin and Neighbourhood, which may refer to Philip or Phil Cunningham and let me know, please. Also Whittaker's Unfinished Revolution, but principally the former.
Happy Easter, Tom


Stack his mother phoned me from N.Z.. She seems to be very interested in the stacks in general and actually visited my cousin Jimmy and went to his funeral, I wrote to her and sent her what I knew. although I do not know how she is related to the Nevillle Stacks. She sure is a sparky lady,
Here are the pict6s of Jimmy receiving the sword of honour at Cramwell where he later became head. Also my father Andrew who was his uncle and my fathers sister Eileen who was my aunt and godmother
sadly

they are all dead now.
My father and aunt were the children of Thomas Neville stack who came to London


I left a message in your guest book an hour or so ago from Mary ElizabethKenne[a]lly re my grandfather J.J.Kenne[a]lly.My email address isI am not sure to whom I am writing...perhaps my cousin Jeremiah?But Iwould love to hear from you.Many thanks,Mary E.Kenneally

I am enjoying you site. My ancestors are from the Kilflynn, Lixnaw, O'dorney area. One of my ancestors married a "Dineen" from Lisselton.I am Quite curious about the John Fitzgerald Kennedy entry on the Lisselton deaths? His family is not from that area.Barb Barb and Bob Jessop
Hello, this is Barb again, still reading your site.One of my ancestors was Dr. Jeremiah Loughnane. He was the dispensery doctor in Listowel during the famine. I am looking for more Famine articles in the Kerry newspapers. Do you know of a good place online to find them? Have you happen to run across any article that may have mentioned Dr. Loughnane? Thank youBarb in Atlanta Greetings, Jer,Gerald and Peggy Roux posted a message around March last on a Website onthe Internet to find out about a William Stack b. Moyvane 1863 , d. ElphinCo. Roscommon 1895, m.Mary Ellen Barry b. 22/05/1864 Ballingar, Co.Roscommon. They had 4 children 1890-4, viz. John William, Mary Francis,Richard Eugene, Hanoria Josephine. His father was John.If you can throw any light on his query, you might like to contact his siteat ..................................and leave a message at the site for him.Dont forget send link for Dores which you will recall I failed to download a while back, the entire file was too bulky.You asked about progress on Stacks. If you send me the tree diagram I will formulate what I have lest I lose all. I still have no line on Uncle Bill's (called after his uncle) family who were looked after by their Co. Clare aunt in Sydney. The only member I have a line on is the one-time Mayor of Darwin who does not seem interested. My namesake of Minnesota died c. 1996. As for Pat, a dentist around N.S.W., it should be possible to find his address, and telephone no. on the internet or a voter's list but I must not be a good searcher! Regards to all the family.

I re-sent you the recent messages as requested, Jer. Ask Maurice O, to get from Manix's, Solicitors, Tralee, the tapes recorded some years ago by the late An tAthair Séamus Ó Deá(Fr. James o' Dea), P.P., Ogonnelloe, Co. Clare, with my assistance, of some native Irish Clare speakers. I need to re-play the tapes in question and I shall return them safely.Cheers,Tom. Hi, I had typed a search on my father's name (Hugh Goulding) and I came up with your site. I am his son Kevin, and I don't know if you are part of the Kennelly family that is next to my Uncle Christy Goulding right near Flynn's. My Dad passed away last September, and I am coming to Knockanure at the end of this September with my brothers Hugh and Sean. It is great to see the pictures of Knockanure (especially the old National School next to my Uncle Christy's house), and God willing will get to see them live in a few weeks. Maybe we can pop in and say hello to you if you are around. Take care, and good job with the web site. Kevin This Sister who hails from Ballyferriter area was 50 years in the Presentation Convent, Cahersiveen at the time she wrote her very humorous book "Thar Balla Isteach" in 1981 a few years after retiring as principal of the Primary School there.It was published by The Kerryman, I have requisitioned it from one of the Library Branches out the County, and I have flicked through the English version "As We Lived It"(not a direct translation) in the Local Studies here. She was Principal all her time in Cahersiveen.You should be able to borrow it from your local Branch there, it seems a great read. Please send me the web link to obtain the origin of the Kerry Stacks as I need to send it to my sister. Dont send me the entire feature itself as it gets distorted in transmission. Was it you or I wanted to look up a Stack man who went to Roscommon? In the feature "Hanging at the Cross", can you identify the families named? To your knowledge, how many were in the large Stack family, Carrueweragh? A 70 year old Sister, Balloonagh Convent told me one lady of them married to Cummins had taught her in West Cork, a second sister also taught in the same area, and of course a third sister(we never knew her Christian name), wife of Timmy Nolan, Moyvane North(?), taught my own sisters in Murher N.S. I must write to the Tralee Convent about a Sr. Winifred whom my mother had always talked about. Looking forward to hearing from you, Tom. Hello, Jer! I came across the following two entries on Ancestry.com in the ChicagoIrish Families database. Do you have any information on either of them? 1) Windle, James Husband of Nora (nee Dougherty), father of Harry Windle,brother of Henry and Timothy, native of Newtown Fands [Newtownsands], Co.Kerry. Funeral from his late residence, 3600 Union ave. to Nativity Churchthence to Mt. Olivet cemetery. --April 28, 1903 (1) 2) McAuliff, Lawrence At 625 W. 43rd st., husband of the late Ellen (neeCurtin), brother of Patrick, John, Timothy, Michael, and Bridget, Mrs.Catherine Dore, and Mrs. William Joyce, Mrs. Mary Dougherty. Native ofKnockshure [poss Knockanure], Co. Kerry. Funeral from St. Gabriel's churchto Mt. Olivet cemetery. --Oct. 7, 1902 (1) [note: thus, Mrs. Mary Doughertywould have a maiden name of McAuliffe]. I haven't found any good airfares to Ireland yet, and so I have delayedmy visit. All the Best! Richard Richard M. Doherty I love your site.My Kennelly family left the Listowel - Glin area circa 1847. I actuallythink they may have been from Ballylongford, an educated guess. Theywere Jeremiah (Darby) Kennelly and his wife, Ellen Mulvihill. They had3 children in the 1840s....Johannah, John and Mary...but I have a hardtime getting a precise year of birth. Ellen had a brother, Patrick, whocame to Canada and probably their father was Jeremiah Mulvihill. We aretold that the family came from Kerry.There is a family story that they were related to the Kennelly's whowent to Renfrew, Ontario.If you ever come across records of the above, would you be so kind as tolet me know. I check your site regularly.Jim Kennelly, great grandson of the above John Kennelly. Hi Jer, This is Peggy in California (researcher of Hanrahan, Costello, Flavin, O'Mearaetc) I periodically go to your Newtownsandes on Line site, to see if anything is new. I meant to write you before about this and never did. It is just a bit of interest and I wanted to share it with you. The world really does get smaller when we do our family history. Part of my lineage from my Costello and Flavin line also involves the Stacks, so this is how I know all of what I tell you. I was reading your article at the site on Tom Neville Stack. Jer, interestingly when certain Stack and Neville families immigrated to the States, they both ended up in Delaware Ohio. (My families immigration area) Well the Stacks of Delaware Ohio and the Nevilles of Delaware Ohio married also. The Nevilles were quite prominent in Delaware Ohio. They built a horse race track and to this day the "Little Brown Jug" races are still held there. How interesting that these two families are intertwined even in the late 1800's and even across the sea in Ohio Neville is also attached to my Hanrahan (of Newtownsandes to Delaware Ohio) family line. Thomas A. Hanrahan, (who became Father Hanrahan) was the son of John and Ellen Hanrahan of Newtownsandes. Well Thomas had several siblings. One of those being Margaret who married a Neville man. Well Jer, as always, wanted to share with you. I am so sure that some Hanrahan family, still there in Newtownsandes is of my line also. I wonder if there is anyone there that I should contact, if they are interested. Oh , just a thought. Talk to you soon.Peggy I have finalized my travel plans and will depart for Shannon on 3November, arriving on the morning of 4 November. I'll be staying with yourcousin Sean Lyons in Listowel from 4-9 November, and heading toward Dublin(with stops in Tipp., Offaly, and Laois) on Sundaythe 10th. If I get busy in Kerry/Limerick, I may extend a day or two. I am still intrigued by your attached note re: the Doherty family ofMountcollins. I am curious if there are some ties with the Doherty familyin Glin, Ahalahana, Tarbert and Ballyheigue. I had done some Dohertyresearch in the Monagay parish, also in Glenquin Barony. Mountcollins is inKilleedy parish, Glenquin Barony. Do you know anyone in this family, or did you read about the reunion?Would the oldest family member (92 years) be willing to meet briefly withme? If you know them, or if you know someone else who knows them, I wouldappreciate finding out if they would meet with me. I also need to visit Johnny Kissane and family in Ahalahana. I wrote tothem at Christmas. I hope we get to meet while I am in the area. I am still amazed at howwe just met on the street in Tralee last year. All the best! Richard Hi Jer, Doing bits and pieces of my family history. Ran across something in my papers of my (Flahavan) family and wanted to ask you something before I forget totally what it is I wanted to ask you------------In the years say 1860 on, did any of your Kennelly family immigrate to Ohio? Also are the names of Michael or Richard Kennelly in Ohio (1860) familiar in your line, or John Mahony, Darby Enright?ThanksPeggy Just to clue you in, I have two articles in this month's issue of the above newsletter, viz. Tarbert Boat Tragedy, 1893 and an item on a very rare heart disease affecting a friend of mine out the road here. Have I your permission to publish "Hanging at the Cross Roads" on the same website? On this, for my own information, I would welcome any information on the family names mentioned. Did you get back your computer working and what was wrong with it?You must never have heard of Sr. Winifred as I have asked you about her previously.Regards,Tom. I was given your name by Peggy K. of California with whom I have corresponded for some years. Some time ago, you asked her for copies of the Scanlon/Shanahan letters which are in my possession as a direct descendent of Patrick Shanahan and Ellen Scanlon Shanahan. The letters were written in 1852 and 1853 to my GG grandmother Ellen Scanlon Shanahan and my GG Aunt Anne Scanlon Flahavan by her mother Anne Scanlon of Aghanagran, County Kerry Ireland. She passed your request on to me just recently and suggested I make contact with you since she didn't feel it appropriate for her to pass on those letters without my permission. There is a reference in those letters to their cousins Michael and Richard Kennelly who were living in Mansfield, Richland county, State of Ohio.Would the Kennelly brothers mentioned be relatives of yours? I might note that I have Enright, Stack and Neil in my family tree, all from the Aghanagran and Ballylongford area. As you are no doubt aware tracing relatives in Ireland is rather difficult so any assistance you can provide would be much appreciated.Sincerely yours,Jim Roslund I looked at the information on your website referring to "Kennelly ofNewtownsandes". I saw that you had a Martin Kennelly married to a KateWindle @1860. Do you have any more information on this marriage. Myggrandfather Michael Windle was born in Kerry, as was, I believe, hisfather, Henry Windle (spouse Bridget Culhane). Something around 1855they moved to Limerick, Glenagragra, where my grandfather Patrick Windlewas born. I have a lot of information on the Windles in Limerick, buthave been unable to determine where in Kerry Michael and Henry whereborn. If there is anything that you can share with me I would be muchappreciated. Marilyn Fannon Hi, JerMy Kerry Chain project is nearing completion, and I wonder if you can help me with a small puzzle, please? When one of our parishioners died in 1902 the priest noted in the register that this man was a native of Snein, or Suein, County Kerry. Have you heard of such a place? We wonder if it might have been Sneem, but that's a long way from your district, where most of our people originated, so we don't know what to think. I have tied up all my Australian kinsmen at this stage.A pity the locals are so shy. The coming generation may like to know about their cousins some day!A happy Christmas and 2003 to you and all the family.Best regards.Tom. Hi. I have relatives who came from Listowel County Kerry. They are JosephDoyle and his mother Catherine Ahern Doyle. She was called Kate in thePennsylvania census for 1860. Joseph was to believe to have been baptizedat St. Mary's church in about 1821 by Father Michael O'Sullivan. Hissponsors were believed to have been John and Johanna Doyle. I believe theycame to the US in about 1848 or after. Briget Halpin married Joseph Doyleand she came to the US after Joseph did. They were married in New York orPennsylvania. Briget Halpin's parents are believed to have been MargaretFitzmaurice and Daniel Halpin. Another of my relatives was named Kilroe orKilrow they came from County Clare or County Roscommon we believe.Thanks for any help you can give. Sharon in Indiana, USA Descendants of MARTIN KENNELLY Page 1 16 Feb 2003 1. MARTIN KENNELLY sp: MARGARET O'CONNELL 2. MICHAEL KENNELLY (c.5 Oct 1852-Newtownsandes Co Kerry Ireland) 2. JAMES KENNELLY (b.1857-Newtownsandes Co Kerry Ireland;d.25 Mar 1931) sp: MARY HERBERT (b.1860;m.1893;d.1934) 2. DENIS KENNELLY (c.28 Mar 1858-Newtownsandes Co Kerry Ireland;d.27 Apr 1905-Carlton Victoria) sp: HONORA SYNAN (b.1863-Co Kerry Ireland;m.1883;d.1946-Carlton Victoria) 3. MARTIN KENNELLY (b.9 May 1884-Carlton Victoria;d.2 Sep 1968-Surrey Hills Victoria) sp: KATHLEEN TERESA BOURKE (b.1889-Clifton Hill,Victoria;m.1918;d.13 Oct 1983) 4. MARTIN ANTHONY (TONY) KENNELLY (b.16 Feb 1921-St Kilda Victoria;d.22 Feb 2001-WH,Heidelberg Victoria) sp: MARY RENNIE DAVIES (b.9 Jan 1923-Mansfield Victoria Australia;m.16 Nov 1948) 5. ROBERT MARTIN KENNELLY (b.12 Aug 1949-East Melbourne Victoria) sp: MOYA ANNE McKENNY (b.23 Dec 1952;m.16 Apr 1979) 6. TARTHRA ANNE KENNELLY (b.8 Sep 1980-East Melbourne Victoria) sp: MICHAEL KANE 7. TIONA MAREE KENNELLY (b.19 Jul 2001-Canberra ACT) 6. PAUL MARTIN KENNELLY (b.9 Jan 1982-East Melbourne Victoria) 6. LAUREN MAREE KENNELLY (b.27 Feb 1984-Canberra ACT) 5. BARBARA MARY KENNELLY (b.31 Oct 1951-East Melbourne,Mercy Hospital) sp: GEOFFREY CHARLES ALFRED CRAPPER (b.29 Oct 1950-Royal Womens Hos Carlton Victori;m.12 Jan 1979) 6. JOANNE KATHLEEN CRAPPER (b.18 Apr 1980-Kyneton District Hospital Victoria) 6. ANGELA MARY CRAPPER (b.29 Jun 1982-Gisborne Bush Nursing Hospital Victoria) sp: MICHAEL LAURENCE AVERY (b.15 Aug 1982-Sunbury Victoria;m.4 Jan 2003) 5. JENNIFER MARGARET KENNELLY (b.19 Jul 1954-East Melbourne) sp: DENIS KEITH LONG (b.22 Dec 1943;m.4 Jun 1983) 5. JOHN ANTHONY KENNELLY (b.20 Nov 1956-East Melbourne Victoria) sp: TRACY ANN ALDERSON (b.28 Dec 1958-Tasmania;m.29 Jan 1983) 6. RACHELLE LOUISE KENNELLY (b.12 Jun 1984-Melbourne Victoria) 6. LUKE DESMOND KENNELLY (b.29 Jan 1986) 6. KRISTA LEANNE KENNELLY (b.6 Dec 1987) 6. NICHOLAS ANDREW KENNELLY (b.12 Sep 1990) 5. ANDREW MICHAEL KENNELLY (b.9 Sep 1960-East Melbourne Victoria) sp: JEANETTE DANIELLE BORGU (b.9 Mar 1964-Queensland;m.4 Apr 1994) 6. HANNAH RENNIE KENNELLY (b.31 Dec 2000-Queensland) 2. MARY KENNELLY (c.25 Aug 1859-Newtownsandes Co Kerry Ireland;d.15 Apr 1928-Melbourne West Victoria) sp: PHILLIP DINNEEN (m.1883) 2. MARTIN KENNELLY (c.27 Apr 1863-Newtownsandes Co Kerry Ireland;d.18 Dec 1931-Olinda Creek Lilydale Victoria) I write in the hope that you might direct me to others who could possibly help in my search for ancestors who I believe came from Newtownsandes. I recently promised my mother that I would find the location in Ireland from whence her grandparents hailed. My great grandfather was one Maurice O'Connell b. 1866 in Ireland. He immigrated to the USA settling in New Jersey in the late 1880s. My mother had no idea from whence he hailed save some family lore that it was from the "Limerick area." My Mom knew that her grandfather took in numerous immigrants from Ireland, giving them a chance to get started in the United States. A combination of the US census returns and the recent computerization of the Ellis Island database and manifests have allowed me to identify all those who came to stay with Maurice as having hailed from Newtownsandes. These manifests identify a number of O'Connels who indicated that they were from Newtownsandes and were coming to the US to stay with their "cousin Maurice" at the address at which my great grandfather resided. These individuals included a James and Lawrence O'Connell who were the sons of ___O'Connell and Catherine Doherty O'Connell, as well as a John O'Connell who is listed alternatively as a cousin or brother of my great grandfather Maurice O'Connell.I am sort of at a dead end. Is there only one Catholic Church in which people from Newtownsandes might have been baptized? Can you provide an address for that church? I have searched the Internet for a list of townslands that might be include within Newtownsandes but to no avail. Can you provide such a list or do you know where I can obtain one? Any help you can provide will be most appreciated.Thank you in advance for your consideration.Francine A. Schott Thanks so much for your reply to my inquiry regarding the O'connels from Newtownsandes. I do not know of any relationship to the priest you mentioned, but I do not know much about my O'connels either. The sum and substance of everything I know is as follows:My great grandfather Maurice O'Connell was born @1866. He immigrated to the US in @ 1886 and settled in New Jersey (across the river from New York). His brother John, born @1868, followed @ 1889-1890 and settled in the same area-- known as the Oranges ( suburbs of Newark NJ) Maurice married Anna O'Brien in 1889. Anna was also an Irish immigrant and is believed to be from the same area as Maurice. Anna's mothers maiden name was Ann Kirby. My great grandfather's marraige and death certificates both list his parents as John and Catherine O'Connell.My mom never had any idea where her grandfather was from, although she did recall her mom saying that he took in alot of immigrants to give them a start.I checked the census returns for New Jersy and found some of these people he took in. They were all O'connells. Through the Ellis Island data base I was able to locate the manifests for the ships on which they arrived. Immigrants arriving after 1899 had to list where they were going, where they were from and who they were to stay with. Each of the people with my great grand list Newtowsandes as the place they last resided before coming to the US and each of these people provide my great grands address as the place they were going.There is a website (jewishgen.org) that allows a search by the town people came from. Through that search engine I located no less than eight people named O'connell from Newtownsandes going to stay with my great grand. The information I have on them is as follows:1.James O'connell immigrated 1903 from Newtownsand. James apparantly left and returned in 1907 with a John O'connel both from Newtownsandes and both identifying my great grand as a cousin. (James stayed with my great grandmother throughout his life. His obituary indicates his mother's name is Catherine Doherty)2.Two Lawrence O'Connels,both from Newtownsandes, immigrated a week apart in 1904. Both of them were age 25 and both said they were going to stay with "their brother James" at my great grands address ( so was my great grand running an illegal immigration operation?)3. 1906-A John Oconnell (age 27) from Newtownsandes arrives to stay with my great grand. Refers to my great grand as his "brother" (not possible since Maurice's brother John was already here)4.1907-Another James O'connell(age 25) arrives a week before the returning James (actually I am not sure which is the original James and which is the returning james) Again says going to his cousin (my great grand). Says he last resided in Newtownsandes and was born in Ballymacelligot 5. 1911- Lawrence O'connell (age 34)returns (yet again) again going to his brother James at my great grand address. Says he last resided with his sister Catherine in Newtownsandes6.1913 (this is the strangest one of all) A Daniel (age 33) and Mary O'Connell (age 36) arrive. He had never been in US before. She had been here previously. They are listed as husband and wife.Daniel says he last resided with his father John OConnell in Ahalana, Newtownsandes. Mary says she last resided with her brother James OConnell in Ahalana. Both are going to my great grand's brother John. Mary refers to John as "her brother John" ; Daniel refers to John as "my cousin John" (were they also intermarrying?)Finally in 1914 Daniel returns again having his nearest living relative as his father John in Newtownsandes. He is returning to the US to his wife Mary who is by that time living with my great grand Maurice.Do any of these people show up in your research? Do you have any suggestions for me as to any local sources to tap into to solve these relationships?I had inquired in my last e-mail as to the names of the townlands that would be considered part of Newtownsandes. The reason for that inquiry was to allow a more thorough search of the website mentioned above. There are no less than 4000 O'connells inthe Ellis Island Data Base. I found the ones mentioned above by searching the word Newtownsandes and variations thereon. I thought if there were other names that folks might use to describe the area I could search using those descriptions as well.Any help is appreciated.Francine Schott Per 1901 Census the Sergeant, Corofin Police Station was a Thomas Stack, born in Kerry.So far, going on our family traditional Christian names, I got no real line on our Stack's around Kilflynn, Abbeydorney, Lixnaw, Stack Mtns. I wondered about what era they left the poor land to come to the Hill. There must be some Cemetery I have not explored.I tried to put your intresting article on Radioactivity on our site but it will not accommodate columnation!, which is extraordinary as the package was designed by Massachussets I. T.Regards, Hi, Jer, tried ringing you, disappointed in the absence of detail on above, but all you can do is try!Re Catherine Woulfe b. c 1830, m. John Shanahan, the Canon found baptism of 3, 1845 to Maurice, Brigid Galvin; 1848 to John, Johanna Barry; 1848 to Michael, Johanna Woulfe. Apparently no record of Catherine's marriage, or he would have stated so. The dob's do not tie in unless John married a child! I dont know where I got the christian name Catherine. Keep trying, Tom. I am seeking information about the descendent relatives of Hanora JORDAN (nee KENNELLY) who was born on Valentia Island, Co. Kerry about 1864. She was the daughter of Michael KENNELLY and Katherine RIORDAN. She had a sister Mary who Married Thomas G. SMITH. She had three brothers John, Brendan (I think) and Michael who dies suddenly when he was 12 years old. Hanora also had a daughter named Evelyn. They were somehow related to Joe SMITH and Liam MAC GABHANN. I believe that all or some of the family lives or lived in RHODE ISLAND If you or anyone you know is part of this family please contact: Thank you for your response. Dick Smith on Valentia is my wife's father's first cousin. I found him about 10 years ago and we are collaborating on the SMITH family genealogy. He and a professional are doing the research and I am entering it on the computer and adding those on this side of the water. I have sent out this notice far and wide for Dick. He is trying to make contact with people who went looking for Kennellys on Valentia several years ago. They asked the wrong people and never got to Dick or his sisters. Dick has been trying to find out who they are ever since, but he has no computer and no way to search. So he asked me to do what I could on my computer. I don't know exactly where to go. I went on the Kennelly and Jordan mail lists and posted a query and a couple of other places which I don't even remember. I have checked the white pages on dogpile and have found that there are 320 Jordans in RI a lot fewer Kennellys. Judging by the info Dick gave me I figure my best bet is with the Jordans, but I have done what I could with both families. My name is Gerald Twiss. I live in New Zealand. I have been helping my father Patrick Twiss, research the Twiss family for several years.Shannah Griggs and I correspond often and she sent me a copy of your e-mail (below). We are Twiss from Kerry, Ireland direct descendants. Could you send me some names, dates and places and in return I could possibly see where you fit into the family line. Look forward to hearing from you RegardsGerald T Hi Gerald,Sorry I am no relation to the Twiss family, but I collect bits and pieces of local history. Found Tuesday June 12th 1860 at Aghadoe Church Killarney the Rev Thomas Hudson married George Twiss of Killorglin, Co Kerry and Eleanor Mc Carthy of Cahirciveen Co Kerry.Keep in contact My Name is Paul Gallagher & I have a website called "An Irish Family Tree" http://www.mdcplus.com/web/gallftree/index.html Well anyway I am searching for any more information on the following:- Maurice Flynn from Ballyguilton,Glin,Dromreask,Co.Limerick.Married on the 23rd February 1867in St Mary's ,Moyvane,Co.Kerry.Bridget Crinnane (Curnane/Culhane?) from Kilbaha,(Leitrim?) Moyvane,Co.Kerry.Witnesses:- George Sandes & John Stack.Maurice & Bridget's children were:-Mary,Bridget,Ellen,John,Johanna,Margaret,Maurice & Catherine. I recently searched around the three graveyards :-Murhur,New Knockanure & Old Knockanure :-Found three Flynn's & dozens of Culhanes. I know about John Flynn's decendants still living on Dromreask Co.Limerick side across the mountains from Moyvane,Co.Kerry. If you can help in any way it would appriciated!Thank you!Paul Gallagher This web site was given to our daughter by an Irishman from Cork.My Dad was from Newtownsandes, having left Ireland in 1920. He was one of 13, most came to the states with 2 going to England and one staying in Moyvane.His parents were Timothy Scanlon and Margaret Sullivan of Newtownsandes. The Sullivans I think lived Upper Aughrim.The Scanlons had a farm in Doncaha Tarbert, Co. Kerry. My greatgrand father was also named Patrick, he married Catherine Enright.I don't know the real reason my father left, though I've been told it was because of the troubles and that he was a wanted man.I'm sure there are relatives of mine scattered around that part of Kerry. I did meet with a cousin ( Margaret Boyle ) who had since past away and she gave me some of the history of the Sacanlons and the Sullivans. I visited the grave of my grandmother, she is buried with her brother John O'Sullivan and his wife Bridget nee Shanahan in that cemetery along the road to Moyvane. I don't know where my grandfather is buried.I'd love to hear from you. Sincerely,Donald P. Scanlon Hello, I came across your page during my geneology search. I have been having quite a time trying to find out information about my family back in Ireland. Their Ellis Island records state they came from Newtownsandes. I was wondering if you had any suggestions for places I could get in contact with in Newtownsandes to find out more. My surname is Tydings and my Great Grandmother's surname was Kenally, which is what brought me across your page. Both Great Grandparents, and other relatives, came from Newtownsandes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for your time and in advance for any help you can give. Regards,James Tydings 1979Michael A. Nolan, native of Tarbert, County Kerry, Ireland, beloved husband of Josephine, nee Prendeville; dear father of Annette (Keith) Patten, Thomas E. (Anne) and Dr. Jerry F. (Judy); grandfather of 17; great-grandfather of Anne Michele McMahon; fond brother of Sr. Ellen Mary, S.S.N.D. and James in Ireland. Funeral Thursday, Nov. 29, 10 a.m., from Collins Funeral Home, 5350 W. North Av., to St. Peter Canisius Church for mass at 10:30 a.m. Interment Queen of Heaven. 30 Sep 1854. Of Michael Dalton from the parish of Ballyhaigue or Killuries, County Kerry, Ire. He came to states about 1851 and was last in Dayton, OH, 12 months ago. Respond to his brother John Dalton, mason, care of Eugene Parker, at 115 Orange St., New York. According to Ruan O' Donnell, UL, in Tipperary Historical Journal 1998(Thanks to Martin Maher, Peter Beirne and Frances), Philip Cunningham, born in Moyvane, Co. Kerry is described as Clonmel's insurgent leader of 1798. A connection with the Cunninghams of N. Tip.may account for his moving there in the 1790's. He ran a public-house and worked as a mason in Clonmel town and in Feb.1798 he married a local woman named Black. On 26/06/1800 he and 146 other male convicts as well as 24 female criminals were deported in Captain Stewart's Anne, via Rio de J. and Cape Town to Port Jackson, Sydney. He was one of the principal leaders in the risings in NSW area especially in Castle Hill. He was mortally wounded in "Vinegar Hill", NSW in March 1804. Through the Convicts' Lists or Ships' Manifestoes or otherwise could further information be gleaned to include him in the family tree so as to establish the connection between Philip Cunningham and my gr-gr-gr father Myles Cunningham who farmed in Kilbaha, Moyvane(then called Newtownsandes), North Kerry(ref Griffith's Valuation) and who is thought to have been born in the 1790's? 1983Joseph Devane, 103, native of Tralee, County Kerry, Ireland, who during his 84 years in the U.S. was a farm laborer, a homesteader in North Dakota, a bakery truck driver, a life insurance salesman and a clerk for the Chicago Park District; in Chicago, he served as a driver for Ward Bakery for many years and was also as an agent for the Mutual of New York Life Insurance Co.; he worked for 11 years for the now defunct Chicago Park District police office, retiring when he was in his 80s; April 4, in Lemont. DEAR SIR, MY ANCESTORS ARE FROM YOUR AREA. NAMES----PATRICK ENRIGHT WIFE ---CATHERINE O'BRIENCAME TO CANADA ABOUT 1840 THEY WERE ROMAN CATHOLIC -NOT SURE WHERE THEY MARRIED --LIKELY IRELAND - CHILDREN ALL BORN HERE.HOW DO I GET CHURCH RECORDSAT MOYVANE NEWTOWNSANDES. KEN KEHOE KINGSTON CANADA

New Zealand Tablet 24th June 1887


Kerry.- On March 25th 1887 a numerous staff of bailiffs, protected by a large force of police under the command of District-lnspector W. H. Rice, accompanied by Lord Listowel's steward, Mr. Sweetman proceeded to Finuge for the purpose of evicting a farmer named James O'Connell for the non-payment of rent, When the bailiff arrived at the place there were only Mrs. O'Connell and her children in the house, Mr O'Connell being in town at the time. Mr Sweetmen demanded possession. Mrs. O'Connell replied that her husband was not at home. Bailiff Browne and his comrades set about their work. So roughly did they hustle out the furniture and bedding that the bystanders, smothering their feelings, actually assisted in removing the various articles of furniture to save them from being injured. When the house was cleared, a caretaker was put into possession and two policemen left to guard him. When Mr O'Connell came on the scene the eviction was almost completed. When the police and bailiffs left he found himself surrounded by his wife and children. He had no place to shelter either himself or his family. He came into town and asked the agent for a night's lodging in the home from which he was evicted. The agent refused. That night the caretakers took compassion on Mrs. O'Connell, and gave her shelter. The next morning the agent, Mr Fitzgerald, met Mrs O'Connell and warned her that if she visited the house again he would prosecute her. Since that time the caretakers have refused to give shelter to the poor woman and her infant child. The neighbours, however did not leave her long without protection. Mrs O'Connell is now sheltered and has a temporary home under James Murphy's rooftree, and the children are scattered about amongst the other neighbours.


Celine Kennelly, of Co. Kerry , is the executive director of the San Francisco Irish Immigration Pastoral Center (IIPC), a non-profit, volunteer-managed organization assisting Irish immigrants in the San Francisco and the Bay Area of California.

A graduate of University College Cork, Kennelly oversees the advice, information, advocacy, referral and support that the IIPC provides for immigrants on issues related to immigration, employment, housing, career, education and social services.

Prior to assuming her position at the IIPC, Kennelly was the program manager at the Triskel Arts Center in Cork City, manager at the Half Moon Theatre of the Cork Opera House and a freelance events manager with MCD Promotions in Dublin.

She is a recipient of numerous awards, including the Leadership Award for passage of a just immigration reform bill from the San Francisco Immigrant Rights Commission, and the Leadership Award for passage of the Service Partner Award from Catholic Charities CYO, San Francisco 2007.

Kennelly is heavily involved in the Irish community as vice president of the Coalition of Irish Immigration Pastoral Centers, a member of the Irish Apostolate, USA, the United Irish Cultural Center of San Francisco and the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform. She is the current chair of the San Francisco Rose of Tralee.

When asked about her Irish heritage, Kennelly said, "What I cherish most of my Irish heritage . . . is, in a word, the old Gaelic concept of meitheal, the commitment to and spirit of community."